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RECENT EPISODES

EPISODE 22 - "Inside the Shoe" Dan catches up with a very special guest - Landan - one our listeners who won our OSU ticket giveaway contest back in November.
EPISODE 21 - 2025 Roster Preview Part 2 (Defense) Part 2 of the 2025 Roster Preview, this one focused on the defensive position groups.
EPISODE 20 - 2025 Roster Preview Part 1 (Offense & ST) Dan and Gary look ahead to 2025 with a preview of the offense and special teams position groups. Debate ensues...
EPISODE 19 - Jordan Hobbs Jordan has been dialed in this season for the 9-2 Wolverines, scoring more than 13 points a game so far this year.

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Gary and Dan are the co-hosts and co-founders of the Leaders and Next podcast. Both are passionate supporters of the University of Michigan, the athletics program and the student-athletes. As experienced professionals - they also share a passion for helping student-athletes build their brands during their college careers while creating the skills and networks for the rest of their career.
Gary Graves
Host & Co-Founder Class of '81 (BS)
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Host & Co-Founder Class of '10 (BA) & '23 (MBA)

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